Straight to the issue: How can i use my modx similar way as moxf as a stand alone vst instrument in cubase? Is it even possible? This connect thingy is a bit confusing and i cant get it work like moxf. I need to have midi notes which i can quantize and at the same time hear the instrument which is currently loaded in the modx, you get the idea... Thank you!These are different issues. Hope this is helpful.
The MOXF had a MOXF VST feature, that when using the Editor allowed you setup for VST audio routing... this is where your MIDI Track was used to echo back (also called 'Thru' ) the data via the Yamaha MOXF6/MOXF8 VST Editor... this Editor allowed you to return the audio through your DAW in the same fashion as a plugin VST. The audio would arrive in Cubase via the VSTi Audio Lane. You could process that audio with VST plugin Effects. It allowed you to hear what the finished Audio Track would sound like when rendered (thus 'virtual' audio). Instead of the audio being printed to a proper Audio Track, this VST Routing allows you to ‘monitor' the audio — printing the audio is done in a separate function called Export Audio Mixdown. (MIDI tracks on their own cannot utilize Export Audio Mixdown).
VST plugin instruments are generated on the computer and they deliver ‘virtual audio' allowing you to hear what the finished Audio Track would sound like after EXPORTING AUDIO MIXDOWN. Soft Synth VST plug-ins, because they are generated completely on the computer can be rendered with just a few clicks. Real audio (external audio) like the MOXF would need to render audio in real time. You play it back to print the audio.
The only real advantage VST plugins have is (because synth plugins may not feature any effect processing) you can route the returning audio to plugin Effects and hear what your finished ‘mixed down' version will sound like after you render it. The disadvantage that VST plugin routing has is you must monitor at the *business end* of the latent signal. The computer does take a few milliseconds to receive, time stamp, and route the signal through to the audio D-to-A.
This disadvantage is not necessarily a bad thing because your latency (even with a moderately powerful computer should be in single digit milliseconds - which should not cause a problem... your mileage will vary depending on what your processing with and it's requirements to process the data.
The MOXF, and external hardware synths, typically, have their own Effect processing which are zero latency and can be applied on the way into the computer.
Latency is extremely misunderstood: since you create two pathways for the MOXF signal to reach the Main L/R outputs and only monitor one of them - this latency can be ignored. When monitoring the MOXF ‘direct' this is 0ms latency... the audi That travels via USB through the computer will be a number of milliseconds delayed. Played simultaneously, of course, you hear that — but monitoring just one of the paths eliminates the issue. If your latency is measured at 6.345ms, that is virtually undetectable, and will not interfere with your playing.
Latency of 20ms makes you squirm, 30ms makes you laugh, any more than that makes you wish you had spend a little more on CPU muscle. Most times, however, when you work with hardware, you monitor yourself *direct* which avoids latency completely.
Yamaha created a bunch of Extensions for Cubase so that Cubase AI (Advanced Integration) the freebie entry-level software, could pull off this advanced routing scenario. We felt it imperative to introduce new users to the power of this advanced routing even at the entry level.
The 'Yamaha MOXF6/MOXF8 VST Editor' worked in VOICE mode as a general editor/librarian, and in Song or Pattern mode to hold multi-timbral setups for Sequencing. It does not have a function to handle Performance mode. It also would receive MIDI directly from the MIDI Track before sending it to the MOXF hardware... and the hardware would then return audio via USB using the VSTi SETUP routing to the ‘virtual' AUDIO LANE. Now you can hear the MOXF through the DAW in a similar routing scenario as plugin synths. You can process, Freeze, and Export Audio Mixdown same as you can with plugin synths. It, literally, was an External Plugin.
The MODX does not have any mode but Performance mode and is based on a different configuration. No such advanced routing scenario can be configured in the entry-level Cubase AI... In fact, the advanced routing of External Instruments and External Effects has always been apart of the top-of-the-line Cubase since Steinberg invented VST back in the mid 1990s.
If you have Cubase Pro, for example, you can setup any of your External hardware (synths or effects) using the advanced routing scenario. When asked about upgrading to a higher version of Cubase, this advanced routing (VST Routing) is a good solid reason to go 'Pro'.
Anticipating the next questions: Is Yamaha going to do an equivalent type of VST Editor for the MODX? There are no plans to do so.
Is getting Cubase Pro the only way to setup the MODX as an a External Instrument and gain virtual audio routing? Yes.
I need to have midi notes which i can quantize and at the same time hear the instrument which is currently loaded in the modxPerhaps I am misunderstanding what you need, but VST Routing is not necessary to accomplish what you wrote. So let me ask, what prevents you from playing back your MIDI Tracks to the MODX while hearing the instrument currently loaded in the MODX?
We can outline several different workflows that can give you what you need... because the MODX can use multiple Parts to create an instrument, working under the 16-Part MIDI system limit can be a tight squeeze. But all it does is make ‘rendering audio' an important part of your workflow.
What is meant here is... in the MOXF typically you worked with 16 Parts, one instrument per Part. In the MODX to do those same 16 musical instrument parts, might require more MIDI Channels... if your MODX instruments each occupy 2- or moreParts, you can run into a wall, if your not aware. But ‘rendering audio' as a part of your workflow allows you to reuse your hardware, again, and again, without the limitation.
The MODX can be setup as an External Instrument (for VST Routing) in Cubase Pro?
The MODX can be setup to record MIDI > render Audio/mute original MIDI > playback the rendered Audio as you add new MIDI instruments.
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